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新興市場認(rèn)證!-NOM & ANCE

客戶要做NOM和ANCE,沒有兩家機(jī)構(gòu)的聯(lián)絡(luò)方式,郁悶啊!
代理的不要進(jìn)來哆嗦啊!
歡迎有經(jīng)驗(yàn)的過來討論討論!
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kinzo
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2005-12-14 20:08
告訴你的客人:我的產(chǎn)品有UL或者CUL就可以,這種認(rèn)證不值得做
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wllvc
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2005-12-14 20:44
@kinzo
告訴你的客人:我的產(chǎn)品有UL或者CUL就可以,這種認(rèn)證不值得做
老大,NOM是強(qiáng)制的!
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kinzo
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2005-12-14 20:52
@wllvc
老大,NOM是強(qiáng)制的!
記得ANCE的標(biāo)準(zhǔn)是等同采用UL,NOM好象也是.而且UL和ANCE有協(xié)議

那就是說:如果你有UL證書,那就可以再要求UL發(fā)你一個(gè)ANCE.
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wllvc
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2005-12-15 08:31
@kinzo
記得ANCE的標(biāo)準(zhǔn)是等同采用UL,NOM好象也是.而且UL和ANCE有協(xié)議那就是說:如果你有UL證書,那就可以再要求UL發(fā)你一個(gè)ANCE.
Below information comes from http://www.intertek-etlsemko.com:
Fast Facts: NOM Mark

>> If your product is in one of over 2,000 product categories, ranging from electronics to home appliances, entering the Mexican market, you must have evidence of compliance with NOM standards.

>> Under Mexican law the NOM certificate holder, who must be a Mexican company, is responsible for warranty, maintenance and product liability.

>> Intertek’s laboratory in Mexico is fully qualified to perform the necessary electrical safety testing for your product. We assist in obtaining an appropriate NOM Certificate from ANCE and NYCE.

NOM Mark (Norma Oficial Mexicana)
Products entering Mexico must be tested to national, mandatory NOM standards by an accredited Mexican laboratory. Testing may be conducted by a laboratory outside of Mexico only if it holds a laboratory-to-laboratory mutual recognition agreement with an accredited Mexican laboratory.

NOM certificates are non-transferable. However, a manufacturer that is a NOM holder may extend usage rights of its NOM certification to Mexican distributors, who may then obtain their own NOM certification without additional testing.

Note: NOM certificates will only be issued to Mexican manufacturers and exporters, or to manufacturers and exporters in countries with which Mexico has a free-trade agreement


Product Categories
All electrical products exported into Mexico must meet NOM requirements as well as mandatory energy efficiency requirements. These products include household refrigerators, freezers, gas heaters, cloth washers, air conditioners; small induction motors and motor operated tools; vertical and submersible water pumps; compact fluorescent lamps and wiring devices; telecom products that are data transmitters (digital, analogical, LAN or WAN systems) and those intended to be connected to the Public Telecom Network (PTN) and designed to process, receive, transmit or convert signals.

ETL SEMKO Division of Intertek conducts testing of products covered by the following standards:
>> NOM-001-SCFI-1993 "Electronic Apparatus. Electronic household appliances input by different electric power sources. Safety requirements and testing methods for type approval", based on IEC-60065
>> NOM-016-SCF1-1993 "Electronic apparatus for offices input by different electric power sources. Safety requirements and testing methods", based on IEC-60335-1
>> NOM-019-SCF1-1998 "Safety of data processing equipment", based on IEC 60950
>> NOM-003-SCFI-2000 is the mandatory NOM product safety specification for electrical products. As a specification, it does not include testing requirements, but it does call for the following standards:

>> NMX-J-521/1: Household electrical apparatus and electrical equipment, based on IEC 60335-1-1991-04
>> NMX-J-524/1: Handheld motor operated tools, based on IEC 60745-1-1998-02
>> NMX-J-508: Wiring devices, small interrupters, incandescent-type luminaries, based on IEC 60884-1 and IEC 60669-1
>> NMX-J-515: Industrial control, based on NEMA ICS

If your product(s) is not covered by these standards, ETL SEMKO has relationships with a number of accredited Mexican laboratories to conduct testing locally. In these cases, testing must be conducted in Mexico.
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wllvc
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2005-12-15 08:51
@wllvc
Belowinformationcomesfromhttp://www.intertek-etlsemko.com:FastFacts:NOMMark>>Ifyourproductisinoneofover2,000productcategories,rangingfromelectronicstohomeappliances,enteringtheMexicanmarket,youmusthaveevidenceofcompliancewithNOMstandards.>>UnderMexicanlawtheNOMcertificateholder,whomustbeaMexicancompany,isresponsibleforwarranty,maintenanceandproductliability.>>Intertek’slaboratoryinMexicoisfullyqualifiedtoperformthenecessaryelectricalsafetytestingforyourproduct.WeassistinobtaininganappropriateNOMCertificatefromANCEandNYCE.NOMMark(NormaOficialMexicana)ProductsenteringMexicomustbetestedtonational,mandatoryNOMstandardsbyanaccreditedMexicanlaboratory.TestingmaybeconductedbyalaboratoryoutsideofMexicoonlyifitholdsalaboratory-to-laboratorymutualrecognitionagreementwithanaccreditedMexicanlaboratory.NOMcertificatesarenon-transferable.However,amanufacturerthatisaNOMholdermayextendusagerightsofitsNOMcertificationtoMexicandistributors,whomaythenobtaintheirownNOMcertificationwithoutadditionaltesting.Note:NOMcertificateswillonlybeissuedtoMexicanmanufacturersandexporters,ortomanufacturersandexportersincountrieswithwhichMexicohasafree-tradeagreementProductCategoriesAllelectricalproductsexportedintoMexicomustmeetNOMrequirementsaswellasmandatoryenergyefficiencyrequirements.Theseproductsincludehouseholdrefrigerators,freezers,gasheaters,clothwashers,airconditioners;smallinductionmotorsandmotoroperatedtools;verticalandsubmersiblewaterpumps;compactfluorescentlampsandwiringdevices;telecomproductsthataredatatransmitters(digital,analogical,LANorWANsystems)andthoseintendedtobeconnectedtothePublicTelecomNetwork(PTN)anddesignedtoprocess,receive,transmitorconvertsignals.ETLSEMKODivisionofIntertekconductstestingofproductscoveredbythefollowingstandards:>>NOM-001-SCFI-1993"ElectronicApparatus.Electronichouseholdappliancesinputbydifferentelectricpowersources.Safetyrequirementsandtestingmethodsfortypeapproval",basedonIEC-60065>>NOM-016-SCF1-1993"Electronicapparatusforofficesinputbydifferentelectricpowersources.Safetyrequirementsandtestingmethods",basedonIEC-60335-1>>NOM-019-SCF1-1998"Safetyofdataprocessingequipment",basedonIEC60950>>NOM-003-SCFI-2000isthemandatoryNOMproductsafetyspecificationforelectricalproducts.Asaspecification,itdoesnotincludetestingrequirements,butitdoescallforthefollowingstandards:>>NMX-J-521/1:Householdelectricalapparatusandelectricalequipment,basedonIEC60335-1-1991-04>>NMX-J-524/1:Handheldmotoroperatedtools,basedonIEC60745-1-1998-02>>NMX-J-508:Wiringdevices,smallinterrupters,incandescent-typeluminaries,basedonIEC60884-1andIEC60669-1>>NMX-J-515:Industrialcontrol,basedonNEMAICSIfyourproduct(s)isnotcoveredbythesestandards,ETLSEMKOhasrelationshipswithanumberofaccreditedMexicanlaboratoriestoconducttestinglocally.Inthesecases,testingmustbeconductedinMexico.
百度搜搜一大堆:
墨西哥政府規(guī)定,所有電子產(chǎn)品的進(jìn)口都必須事先向墨西哥工商部申請質(zhì)量標(biāo)準(zhǔn)證書(NOM),即符合美國UL標(biāo)準(zhǔn),方允許進(jìn)口.
NOM (Normas Oficiales Mexicanas) 標(biāo)志是墨西哥的強(qiáng)制性產(chǎn)品安全標(biāo)志,該標(biāo)志必須標(biāo)示在產(chǎn)品包裝上.墨西哥有兩家認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)可以簽發(fā) NOM Mark:
NOM NYCE: IT 類設(shè)備
NOM ANCE: 電器和類似產(chǎn)品 ( 如家電產(chǎn)品 )
特別提示:
NOM 證書通常有效期限為一年,此后每年申請更新;更新證書時(shí),認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)會從市場上隨機(jī)抽樣進(jìn)行測試;
NOM 證書持有人為當(dāng)?shù)卮砩?原申請人收到的是證書與報(bào)告的副本,正本由代理商保管;申請 NOM 認(rèn)證需要提交西班牙文的銘牌和使用手冊.
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kinzo
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2005-12-15 11:03
@wllvc
百度搜搜一大堆:墨西哥政府規(guī)定,所有電子產(chǎn)品的進(jìn)口都必須事先向墨西哥工商部申請質(zhì)量標(biāo)準(zhǔn)證書(NOM),即符合美國UL標(biāo)準(zhǔn),方允許進(jìn)口.NOM(NormasOficialesMexicanas)標(biāo)志是墨西哥的強(qiáng)制性產(chǎn)品安全標(biāo)志,該標(biāo)志必須標(biāo)示在產(chǎn)品包裝上.墨西哥有兩家認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)可以簽發(fā)NOMMark:NOMNYCE:IT類設(shè)備NOMANCE:電器和類似產(chǎn)品(如家電產(chǎn)品)特別提示:NOM證書通常有效期限為一年,此后每年申請更新;更新證書時(shí),認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)會從市場上隨機(jī)抽樣進(jìn)行測試;NOM證書持有人為當(dāng)?shù)卮砩?原申請人收到的是證書與報(bào)告的副本,正本由代理商保管;申請NOM認(rèn)證需要提交西班牙文的銘牌和使用手冊.
http://www.ul-ccic.com/newsevents/seminars/SeminarDetails.asp?HId=817&BId=1149&LId=4&pagenum=1&Sort=Date


去那里看看吧
美華真黑啊!市場推薦會居然也要收錢,而且要收1900大刀
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safetyemc
LV.4
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2005-12-18 10:06
認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)也是代理啊,只是時(shí)間比較快一些.
做國際認(rèn)證比較專業(yè)的就是ITS了,臺灣ITS和廣州ITS.
墨西哥NOM Mark,發(fā)證機(jī)構(gòu)有兩家,NYCE和ANCE.
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kinzo
LV.4
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2005-12-18 14:16
@safetyemc
認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)也是代理啊,只是時(shí)間比較快一些.做國際認(rèn)證比較專業(yè)的就是ITS了,臺灣ITS和廣州ITS.墨西哥NOMMark,發(fā)證機(jī)構(gòu)有兩家,NYCE和ANCE.
我在上海ITS里面認(rèn)識的人不少,不過美標(biāo)的東西確實(shí)沒怎么接觸過.
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safetyemc
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2005-12-19 09:27
@kinzo
我在上海ITS里面認(rèn)識的人不少,不過美標(biāo)的東西確實(shí)沒怎么接觸過.
上海ITS做國際認(rèn)證還可以吧,接觸過.
你們?nèi)R因也不錯(cuò)啊.
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qdartec
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2006-02-13 13:50
@safetyemc
認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)也是代理啊,只是時(shí)間比較快一些.做國際認(rèn)證比較專業(yè)的就是ITS了,臺灣ITS和廣州ITS.墨西哥NOMMark,發(fā)證機(jī)構(gòu)有兩家,NYCE和ANCE.
我司的產(chǎn)品時(shí)mini-amp,它需要外置12V/300mA開關(guān)電源.我們的產(chǎn)品需要做:"NOM"認(rèn)證嗎? 我聽說輸入電源低于24v的產(chǎn)品不需要做的.
謝謝!
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angelsand
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2006-02-14 12:06
我不同意你的觀點(diǎn),但誓死憾衛(wèi)你說話的權(quán)利.
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ginger.wei
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2006-02-22 13:38
其實(shí)在國內(nèi)來說,能作NOM的全部都是代理,就算是TUV, ITS他們也是找他們在墨西哥當(dāng)?shù)氐姆种C(jī)構(gòu)去找NYCE或者ANCE去申請,你以為他們能自己找到墨西哥的去申請嗎?他們的行業(yè)內(nèi)部是不允許的,這樣的價(jià)格是中間轉(zhuǎn)了一道的,相比較其他的代理反而沒有什么競爭力,所以Wllvc說代理不要羅索這話似乎太武斷了,所有的環(huán)球認(rèn)證,國內(nèi)沒有一家公司可以直接發(fā)證,全部都是代理.
還有,如果貴公司沒有代理商,還是要找代理阿,你以為TUV,ITS這些機(jī)構(gòu)會去幫你找代理商嗎?有也是價(jià)格奇高的
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wanbozy
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2006-03-09 08:53
@ginger.wei
其實(shí)在國內(nèi)來說,能作NOM的全部都是代理,就算是TUV,ITS他們也是找他們在墨西哥當(dāng)?shù)氐姆种C(jī)構(gòu)去找NYCE或者ANCE去申請,你以為他們能自己找到墨西哥的去申請嗎?他們的行業(yè)內(nèi)部是不允許的,這樣的價(jià)格是中間轉(zhuǎn)了一道的,相比較其他的代理反而沒有什么競爭力,所以Wllvc說代理不要羅索這話似乎太武斷了,所有的環(huán)球認(rèn)證,國內(nèi)沒有一家公司可以直接發(fā)證,全部都是代理.還有,如果貴公司沒有代理商,還是要找代理阿,你以為TUV,ITS這些機(jī)構(gòu)會去幫你找代理商嗎?有也是價(jià)格奇高的
沒錯(cuò)!其實(shí)都是代理,只不過大公司的代理信譽(yù)好點(diǎn)而已!
但是找沒名氣的代理商估計(jì)還要轉(zhuǎn)一道手罷!
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ginger.wei
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2006-03-09 15:30
@wanbozy
沒錯(cuò)!其實(shí)都是代理,只不過大公司的代理信譽(yù)好點(diǎn)而已!但是找沒名氣的代理商估計(jì)還要轉(zhuǎn)一道手罷!
看他是否還會再轉(zhuǎn)一道手看價(jià)格就知道了,直接和國外認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)做很簡單的,你不要以為很難,那些ITS, TUV的價(jià)格往往更貴,因?yàn)樗麄冏约哼€要賺一道
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wanbozy
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2006-03-10 08:25
@ginger.wei
看他是否還會再轉(zhuǎn)一道手看價(jià)格就知道了,直接和國外認(rèn)證機(jī)構(gòu)做很簡單的,你不要以為很難,那些ITS,TUV的價(jià)格往往更貴,因?yàn)樗麄冏约哼€要賺一道
嚴(yán)重同意!我一直都盡量直接找國外的機(jī)構(gòu)做認(rèn)證!
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ul.ccic
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2006-03-10 11:41
@ginger.wei
其實(shí)在國內(nèi)來說,能作NOM的全部都是代理,就算是TUV,ITS他們也是找他們在墨西哥當(dāng)?shù)氐姆种C(jī)構(gòu)去找NYCE或者ANCE去申請,你以為他們能自己找到墨西哥的去申請嗎?他們的行業(yè)內(nèi)部是不允許的,這樣的價(jià)格是中間轉(zhuǎn)了一道的,相比較其他的代理反而沒有什么競爭力,所以Wllvc說代理不要羅索這話似乎太武斷了,所有的環(huán)球認(rèn)證,國內(nèi)沒有一家公司可以直接發(fā)證,全部都是代理.還有,如果貴公司沒有代理商,還是要找代理阿,你以為TUV,ITS這些機(jī)構(gòu)會去幫你找代理商嗎?有也是價(jià)格奇高的
“所有的環(huán)球認(rèn)證,國內(nèi)沒有一家公司可以直接發(fā)證,全部都是代理.”---不至于吧,ITS,TUV等都可以發(fā)證呀.UL-CCIC也可以發(fā)證呀,只不過審核都在其他lab而已啦
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ginger.wei
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2006-03-13 11:42
@ul.ccic
“所有的環(huán)球認(rèn)證,國內(nèi)沒有一家公司可以直接發(fā)證,全部都是代理.”---不至于吧,ITS,TUV等都可以發(fā)證呀.UL-CCIC也可以發(fā)證呀,只不過審核都在其他lab而已啦
拿阿根廷來說吧!TUV可以發(fā)證當(dāng)然,他發(fā)的只是TUV S-mark,在阿根廷國內(nèi)的認(rèn)可度哪有阿根廷自己IRAM發(fā)的S-mark認(rèn)可度高,你讓TUV去發(fā)IRAM的證,你去打聽一下,他們會不會發(fā)?這就是很簡單的道理了.再說,就算是TUV自己發(fā)的證,他們也比不過是轉(zhuǎn)手到阿根廷的TUV去做,自己根本就是轉(zhuǎn)手的過程沒有做任何的工作,從中賺一道,大家說說這不是代理是什么?
諸如此類,他們可以發(fā)的日本的PSE也是同樣的道理,大家以后可要注意了.
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